fished it a few times an would rate this place,as for a runs water,use to be but fox an heron have wised up!there is some cracking fish in both lakes,me i would go on fox.my best there is 42lb.tothrow a spanner in the works they opened the cat lake up now for carp[kingfisher]which is fishing like fox /heron when the place first opened.the main runs one there is called attilla.that fishes well well for doubles /low twentys but why go to france for that?fox or heron mate,deffo fox.for more infro go on there site[abbey lakes] or put it in you tube for results.korda filmed a dvd on there to.my rating is 8/10 pal.they av a tackle shop,cold beers,showers good staff an even drop a snack of at your peg.oh try there website an look at the 72lb carp in gallerys,also a few 60 plus from fox to 69lb.