oh no not this place againe i had the worst seesion ever on there a couple of years ago. fist of all the place was i mud bath, then i broke my bivvy in the wind and had to sleep in my mates bivvy on the foor in the mud on a unhooking mat. plus we were up all night catching very small carp, chub and barbel. so when you go make sure you go on the main carp lake which is the one at the top of the hill.