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Cheers, I might give it a try then, just for fun.

Saw the local store had a few tubs of unflavoured collagen protein powder on sale. Bovine origin, 90% protein. Any good for fishing related use?

We do, a few rivers on the west coast, and some on the east (baltic salmon counts as the same species). The far north is getting pretty decent, apparently. We used to have 228 salmon rivers, but hydroelectric dams, logging routes and pollution has taken it down a few notches, to 30 something. Pike and perch are everywhere, and they do grow big, especially in the baltic archipelago. Some bloke got an 18,1 kg pike earlier this spring (that's a hair short of 40 lbs). That'd be fun to try some day.

They do indeed. Their homepage has boilies, and one basemix (about £110 for 10 kg). The webshop I frequent still has 4-5 of their base mixes. Other thsn that, Northern Baits has one or two mixes becoming available later this year (got their Krillers on the pre-sale). But advice could probably be had, at least.

Oh gods, I can see the smell 😶

Thanks all of you, this cleared up quite a bit of the confusion. Plenty of that for a newbie, when articles on "glug this, boost that" are thirteen a dozen. Plowing through archives on carpology, AD, drennan etc, there's a whole lot of contradictory quotes from various famous anglers.

Why? Oh that's simple; I haven't a clue what I'm doing, that's why 😁 I've got a tub of hard hookers, one of wafters, and some mixed popups. Poking your nose in either tub will singe your nostril hairs; they're quite potent. So yeah, I was assuming that hi-attract bait was one of the first things to try, along with a boilie straight from the bag, and popups, and washed-outs were more for pressured and wary carp. Gods, it's an entire jungle of new things to learn.

Right, that seems easily done How much do you beef up the flavours for a high attraction hookbait? More towards x 1,5 or x 4 (compared to base recipe)?

How much variation do you guys put in your baiting? Same recipe, but different colours and shapes, or a handful of different recipes? That is perhaps a moot point with the pressure on most venues, I guess, but for the waters with few enough anglers that "oh, it's that prat again, lets turn finnicky for a while" is a risk.

Ah, found it. So, predigested fishmeal for solubles, and high protein meal for foodstuff?

Thanks! Aside from CSCP90 (which seems to be some business management certificate flooding my searches), it's much clearer now. I'll do some adjustments, see what ingredients I can get my hands on, and then see how stuff turns out.

Yeah, I was just being thick; the amount of liquid additives are so small it doesn't really matter either way. Lots of new stuff to cram into my skull.

I'm having some trouble bending my head around how to balance the wet ingredients. Dry parts, simple; weigh, blend, then take whatever you need to the egg mix. 1 kg base mix goes to what, roughly 8 eggs. Do you include the oils and hydros in the 1 kg of base mix, or is it added to the 1 kg of dry parts? Reasonably simple for 1 kg batches, but when you do 1 or 4 egg fractions it's a bit more fiddly.

Right, skewing the mix a bit more towards fishmeal for starters, and then start experimenting. Upping the krill might turn them into wafters, with enough fiddling, I guess? Thanks!

I might experiment a bit then, just for fun. When we've had shrimps for dinner, I blitz the shells and heads and mix with cheese curl flour. Good groundbait additive for chub. Any major adjustments to the basemix recipe above I ought to consider?

Further questions; Are fresh ingredients (for example blitzing some shrimp, or fish offal to a fine mush) any use, or will it just cause boilies to roll poorly and/or rot? How much of larger particles can one add before they roll poorly? (Seeing some of you adding nijer seeds, ground nuts, etc). Is there an FAQ for rolling issues I've missed? For example "balls collapse; too much oil, or too large sausage. Balls break up when cooking; mix too coarse" and so on.

This one is branded JAXON, and instructions are in polish, so yeah, highly unclear. The local tackle shop has a small shelf of mixed angling stuff; some hooks, floats, sinkers and feeders, three kinds of groundbait, and the occasional bag of boilies and other oddballs. The shopkeeper is mostly into fly fishing, and some perch, so he has the section under the premise "some people buy angling stuff, they probably know what they're looking for". Agreed. I've been fishing for thirty-odd years, but mainly spinning and some fly fishing, only got into coarse fishing a year ago, so it's still a whole new playground. Also, angling in general is a quite small niche in Sweden. Back here it's the stone age, and two of our shops beginning to offer maggots by the pint is this year's sensation.

Had my first session today, 3 hours in I decided to reel in to put on a new PVA stick and recast. Apparently I failed to notice the "non-" bit on my funnel web pack, and thus hauled in a slimy turd of pellets and groundbait in bright white stockings. Felt like a right bell-end when I checked the packaging more thoroughly 🤔. So, what's Non-PVA stuff for? Cray-proofing boilies? Chum-bags for pike fishing? Was only 2 quid, so I won't be crying blood over it, but I'd better get the real stuff for next session, I think it can improve my presentation a wee bit.

My dutch mate just sent me a covid care package, with rolling tables and a bunch of ingredients (krill and fishmeals, some liquids, and a bag of krill basemix) to get me up and running. The store-bought mix is 5 kg of Nothern Baits Krillers, thought it'd be good for rolling practice and prebaiting, but when it runs out I hope I'll be doing my own blend, with wich I'm going to need some help. I'm looking for a reasonably easy mix, high nutritional value food stuff, no overly exotic ingredients, and some tips on how to tweak it between freebies, hookbaits, general variety, and so on. Starting point for a 1 kg mix; 200g fishmeal 170g krill meal 200g semolina 200g maize flour 100g chickpea flour 50g krill or liver hydro 10g salmon oil 20g banana or tutti frutti powder (MVDE groundbait flavour powder) 50g robin red. The above is ingredients I already have. I also have an abundance of wholegrain buckwheat flour, since the wife is gluten intolerant, could definetly replace the chickpea. Local shops stock a bunch of liquids, dips and glugs from Northern Baits (been ogling their banana, BNB and Milky Amino liquids a while), and some stuff from Tandem Baits, Sticky Baits, and the shop's own un-branded GLM and other hydros and bait dips. Please adjust the levels and ingredients freely. I'm assuming a high-attract hookbait would get an extra dollop of hydros and flavours, and some egg albumen for a better chance with the crays?

Ooh, that's neat! I have a friend in Zwolle, he can make a visit there before he comes here next time. If they ever lift the travel ban, that is...

Oh, they don't shred those? Good to know. Money aside, would I be best off buying prepared nuts, or a bag of dried ones and cook'em myself? The dried ones are only available in 20 kg bags. Feels a bit overkill as I haven't even started carp fishing yet. I do have the fish fever though...

Looks nice. No shipping outside the UK at the moment though, pity.

Could one make it work as a boilie? I mainly go with Pimp Shrimps (plain shrimp with purple halibut glug, and a crust of AmphetaBream groundbait (krill and bloodmeal, good stuff), but I want something to combat crays and nuisance fish. Some of those little [censored]s are proper surgeons when it comes to steal the shrimp off the hook.

I'll gladly take any tips on taste combos for chub as well.

I'll get a bag or two from the more prominent shop then. Start a mild feeding campaign, use crumb as groundbait etc.