Sorry about that......they're in Lancashire not too far from Blackpool.
I've heard mixed reports from a group of lads that went but, tbh, they're muppets.
They are both fisheries with multiple lakes/ponds.
Whitmore fisheries and Hudson's Farm.
A bit late but.....here's my input.
Following a very cold trip in 2007, during which my gas froze up and we nearly starved(-9)I swore I'd never use gas again.
Coleman for me.
It's an age thing.......believe me.
I know what you mean about putting the darned things away.
The JRC STi 2 man I had(many years ago)was a royal pain.....it didn't fit back into the bags it came in.😓