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Yes know what you mean but having spent most of the late 80s carp fishing Llandrindodd Wells you get used to the townie and idiot factor believe me!

Had a walk round it the other day and it doesn't seem to be getting any attention.always used to be a good runs water and a nice refresher when you'd spent loads of timeon hard waters and just need a bend in the rod,its also cheap!

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