london_geeza Posted January 2, 2006 Report Share Posted January 2, 2006 right ladies and gents, been having a bit of a disagreement on hair lengths on the other forum, to put it in short, a large majority of ppl likes short hairs and i go and put up that i use 3-4'' normally for boilies on the bottom, ofcourse this will change when the times right, and what rigs and materials used and what venue, but for general hair rigged 15lb braid, id rather be on 3-4'' hairs which are classed as long to most, and lets be honest even if we do pull the rig straight, we can never be sure how far or for how long the baits sitting from the hook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seleb Posted January 4, 2006 Report Share Posted January 4, 2006 Hi london Geeza, i thought the whole point of haveing a hair was so that the bait could be sucked to the back of the carps throat where the pharyngael teeth are, with the hook catching in the bottom lip. It also lets your bait behave more naturally as it has more freedom from the hook, so long as the hair is soft enough. I too use a longish hair, not quite as long as yours mine are about 1.5 - 3 incheslong and i have no problems with hook holds what so ever. It seems that all the magazines you read everyone is using rigs with the bait as tight to the hook as possible, obviously these rigs work but you never see rigs with long hairs anymore. If you look through some old editions of carpworld quite a lot of the rigs were like this. Seleb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 I allways use a hair twice the size of the bait I am using ie. 15 mm bait = 30 mm hair, that way i find the bait acts more natural never had to many probs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_geeza Posted January 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 to be honest i didnt post this up to get replies as to help with my hairs, i put it up after ppl on the other forum saying things like, does he still hook the fish using long hairs and id never think about using hairs that long etc.... i just thought am i the only one nowdays who fishes over 2'' hairs, i know my mates and most of the ppl round me lake all use short hairs. i remember back in the days when sweetcorn was all the rage and a hair rig was all new ( and now it has taken over the carp scene, possibly as the biggest step up in carp angling, in my mind ), but yeah seems u boys think the same as me, if its gonna be fished so close to the hook, then a bait band or d rig or some other object etc... would contribute just as much. i like it to be as free as the hook as i can get, i also like to pull the rig back just to try my best to make the hair straighten full length. im actually quite pleased a large amount of ppl are using short hairs, like to think it gives me the advantage over the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pineaplepopup Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 well i used to have my hairs about 5 mm off the bend of the hook, but after watchin the korda under water vids its amaizing how many times a carp pics up the bait witth out gettin the hook in its mouth so now i have shortend my hair to about 1-2 mm and its worked better for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tidyboy02 Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 To me the length of the hair depends on the lake im fishing to how wish the fish are and what everybody else is using. Sometimes i used rigs with short hairs by that i mean 5mm away from where it comes away from the hook and up to hairs of 3-4 cm in length. When it comes to d rigs i like it quiet close to the ring but with a slight gab so when it is sucked in and blown back it acts like a hinge, the bait goes backwards and the hooks is forced downwards I also also think that it depends on the size of the fish your targeting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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