Hair Rig

[blueaura]

On a hair rig how big should the loop be?

[jungle_bum80]

Hello mate the loop in the hair rig only needs to be enough to be able to hook your bait needle through. I personaly have mine quite big so its easier on those cold nights;)

[Guest Anonymous]

I normally tie mine big because if i forget my specs i can't see it.

Whatever suits you really.

[blueaura]

So it has no impact on keeping the bait on as long as the bait is pushed down to the end up against the bait stop. That right?

[leadbetters_man]

Yeh thats rite m8, jus make it how big you want it to be, bu making it smaller will be harder than making it bigger!!!

[simon_10001]

wel personally i think having the hair smaller is better. it looks neater and i always have the actual hookbait covering the hair, its just better that little bit smaller

[mick1396]

wel personally i think having the hair smaller is better. it looks neater and i always have the actual hookbait covering the hair, its just better that little bit smaller

 

Not always m8,if the fish wise up to a short hair then changing to a longer one should increase results and remember the original hair rig was tried in all sorts of lengths,some up to 3 inches or so gap between the bait and the hook,so what may look neat and tidy to you or me may not give the best presentation.

[simon_10001]

i mean yea longer hairs they work as everyone knows but when the carp are picking up the bait individually and not sucking the bait in iv found that sometimes the hook has only just entered the mouth and therefore is only just hooking the fish or sometimes not at all, thats what i call a ghost run...you get a run on your end but when you strike...nothing. it all depends on the pressure of the water you fish and the standard of fish in the lake everyone is in a different situation. id rather use hookbait stacks over a longer hair hookbait, i just have more confidence in that

[Guest Anonymous]

I thought we were talkin about how big or small the boilie stop loop was, not how long the actual hair.

[leadbetters_man]

Yeh, it thought that aswell m8:rolleyes:

[Guest Anonymous]

its always better to tie the loop so that the knot is within the bait when on the hair, this will help to keep the bait inplace against the hair stop and help to stop the bait sliding down against the hook.

[koed]

i dont have a knot on mine as i whip the hair into my knot on the hook

[Malc 1950]

i dont have a knot on mine as i whip the hair into my knot on the hook

do you use a seperate hair or is the hair part of the hook link?

[koed]

the hair is part of the hook link if i want to shorten it i use tube.

 

have used this method for a long long time..

 

mind you my p b is only 7lb but you have to remember i have only ever caught 5 carp

[Guest Anonymous]

that many!

[koed]

that many!

 

 

 

yes but you have to remember ive only been carpin for 30 odd yrs

[Guest Anonymous]

well youve almost doubled your total with 3 more today.

[koed]

well youve almost doubled your total with 3 more today.

 

and i equalled my p b

[blueaura]

One more thing, what is the best thing to use as a hair stop. i've been using pine needles and short peices of grass all found beside the bank so everything is as natural as possible.

 

Only thing is the best stop i've used so far is pine needles but they have been wet for too long and become too soft, they are bending in two and going straight through the luncheon meat I'm using.

 

Ideas?

[carpoholic]

If you do not want to use a manufactured plastic stop from the shops use dry sphagetti.

[mick1396]

I thought we were talkin about how big or small the boilie stop loop was, not how long the actual hair.

 

I know that,but there`s np point in ignoring a point even if it is slightly different to the main question.