i disagree, the fish are average to good conditioned, i fished there november o8, had 10 fish in 24hrs, smallest 9lb biggest 26lb fully scaled. average size ive found to be around 12-14lb. I like the place, yeah rats are everywhere and get some muppets there but hey..where doesnt, baliffs are bit grumpy but i dont go to catch baliffs..out of 22 fish in 3 visits ive only had 6 single figure fish, only 4 fish have had angler damaged mouths.. not bad for a commercial.