i used to fish orrel too i have to agree with what u say however the lakes arent really that full of carp anymore as they have had a fwe fish kills ive not heard anything for a couple of years tho it may have picked up or the pressure may have eased up a bit, ill have to go back one day
i think sunny 2 will be an ok water for us nw carpers this year but id really like some big unpressured water or one were only matchmen fish or something. carping is just too popular now