Thanks for all the responses guys its brilliant to get some input as it feels so easy to get lost on the amount of options I have, as someone whos coming back into the sport I like the looks and also the reviews of the Avid Tractions I cant seem to find a bad review on them, and for 79,99 I can get 2 of them for what I would pay for one Free spirit although as you guys have pointed out they seem to be an incredible rod would you says its worth me spending the extra and getting the spirits would a novice benefit from it? I don't mind paying the extra if its going benefit me in the long run!