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Hi Neal and Spr Rather than fish a Zig from the lake bottom up towards the surface why not float fish a boilie from the surface downwards , adjusting the depth until you get a bite ? .

Worms under a bubble float are awesome for that a nice healthy bunch

Got back from my 5th (and last) trip on 09/04/16. Last trip as we're moving on to new (to us) waters. Cretelakes is a fine, well run complex, but getting too busy for my liking but understandable due to the quality of the fishing. I fished Lake 5 - peg 52. Found a line of gravel right across the swim about a rod length wide at about 60 yards, fished on this with all 3 rods for the whole week and fed 30 baits per rod to begin with as the guy who fished the previous week apparently only had 2 fish, so started with caution. The baiting was increased as the fish started to feed and be caught to about 100 boilies after each fish and the same amount each time the rigs were repositioned. Bait was Mainline Cell & Essential Cell (10 kgs of each). All my hook baits were chopped and mostly fished 3 half baits on the hair coated in pineapple goo. One rod fished with half bottom and half pop up baits and all tipped with yellow or white plastic corn stops and coated in Almond goo. Throughout the week, i had mirrors of 29, 31, 22, 26.8, 29, 34, 21, 26, 24, 26.12, 43, 39, 20, 24, 29, 24, 37 and commons of 23, 24.8, 30.8, 32.4 1 x 40, 6 x 30's and 14 x 20's. Total of 21 fish with only 2 lost fish, one due to me messing around trying to get my boat back before the gale that was blowing sank it , the other was basically an unstoppable run as soon as I picked the rod up it was at full pelt on the clutch, came off after about 3 seconds lol ! My mate had the biggest fish of the week off lake 1 - peg 9 at 66lb 6oz. Only 1 of our 7 group members failed to catch with the others all having some nice fish between 30 & 46lbs. Hope this helps