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I think you meant this one: http://www.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=26332 Maybe it makes more sense to be in the rig tying stickies? Not sure since it is in context of mainline....

Could stuff the bag with pva foam sticks / packing peanuts

If you don't have the braid yet you can get a coated hooklink and just strip away some of the coating near the hook end so that the swivel end is more like mono and won't tangle/coil up as much. This won't really "kick it out" as much though.

Oh I didn't mean it would be made more dangerous. What I meant was that if you were concerned about a single fake bait not catching and were banking on the carp "just picking it up", then a running rig would be counterproductive in this scenario because you aren't planning on the carp actually running with the fake bait. I guess I was just interested if anyone had solid takes with only fake maize on a running rig? It seemed close enough to Kev's question as to not hijack.

Are any of you trying this with slack running rigs though? edit: I mean, with the concern of using a single fake particle this would make things worse right? Daryl's comment seemed to suggest a semi-fixed setup, or a bolt rig at best.

I spent a day fishing size gama 6's with light drag and a 8lb hooklink and didn't have that problem again lol.

Sorry if this is a repetitive post, but I have done a good amount of searching on and off of this site for a comprehensive comparison of the different styles of hooks (straight eye, outward turned eye, curved shank, long shank, wide gape, ...you get the idea). There are some basics that pretty much everyone knows, the conclusions we draw from our experiences, and the assumptions we make but I was just hoping to read more on the subject. So far the best I have been able to come up with is http://www.carp-fishing-tactics.com/carp-hook-patterns.html Can anyone point me to a more in-depth article?

Well by getting rid of the swivel I'm using mainline straight through and also removing the hooklink.

That makes sense, thanks dj

How do you adapt this as a hair rig?

Make sure you have your camera with you when you catch him

Thanks for the detailed response I will attempt the rig when I get home tonight. One thing I tried before going to bed last night was cutting a piece of mono and tying the loop in it. Next I put the other end through the eye of the hook and snelled the line against the hook shank. Now I have to decide how to secure that hair piece of mono if I'm to go that route. I'm not sure if snelling is still as strong if you have 10+ windings of mono?

I'm not sure what kind of rigs you are looking for but mono works fine for running, bolt, and semi-fixed rigs. You can probably substitute it in for braid in many rigs and remove the anti-tangle need in some cases.

I wish I knew what was different. I'm not sure what you can do about a carp hitting a hook with their underside. I'm going to start dropping my rigs in water to make sure the hook lays down now.

I have been fishing with the semi fixed rig a lot at close distances lately and am trying to simplify the rig. From the hook end my rig has been: hook (hair rig w/ knotless knot), fluoro(coated) hooklink, swivel, rubber bead, running bead with swivel lead, glass bead, float stop. This can also be easily modified to a bolt rig by slipping the float stop further up the main line. I know this works as a safety rig because the float stop is often several feet up the line when I get a fish in. I would like the rig to be (from the hook end) hook (hair rig w/ knotless knot), 2x float stop, glass bead, running bead with swivel lead, glass bead, float stop. This will have the mainline straight through and avoid two palomer knots. It will also allow me to quickly change hooklink lengths. The only complication is the knotless knot. The knotless knot really assumes that nothing is attached to either end of the line when you start. I have tried just snelling the hook and creating the hair loop with the slack but it is on the outside of the knot so the hair doesn't lay against the hook. I'm trying to avoid adding any rings or tubing to the hook. Is there an obvious solution I'm missing?