goldenburm

I use the 5 turn grinner on heavy lines and the 7 on lighter lines to swivels etc, and i use the knotless knot to do hair rigs or D rigs! Peter

cats like em, caught a cat the other day on a float fished big black un'

IMO it depends on what rig etc you are using, certain rigs suit a shorter hooklength while others are more variable Peter