Thanks for the reply. I wil use the fat soja and going to check the essential oils as well. Hoop they dont cost a small fortune haha. I still have room for some red cell if the mix does not bind well. If the mix holds together well than i will use a higer amout of liver powder also. The ingredients schould be of a good quality but have not ordert them yet. I will post the bait if its rolled for anyone interested. Thanks again.