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Yeah tried that looked great but no bites, also tried real snail meat popped up inside a real snail shell - looked MEGA - no bites! 🤣 I do think anything like that will work and well - my attempts were just wrong time and place. I like the idea of small deadbaits tbh for the busy waters that see it all I will be trying that at some point, the dog has dried sprats that look good and I have a big bag of small roach in the freezer. I'm changing my approach for a while from tonight - back to pop-ups and sticking baits out (small amount), think it is the baiting that is wrong not the rig - fishing for single passing fish not big groups the baiting is just too much.

" but I love it thankfully. Lots to keep you busy 👍 Do it while you're able to hey - to the max " . Well that says it all , Kev. , as long as you are enjoying yourself . Some of the lakes I fish have a number of swan mussel shells about , and I remember about 50 odd years ago chunks of swan mussel on a big hook were used . I wonder if that would work ? . 😃

I don't ever want a repeat of yesterday. A friends lake, troubled with 2 large fallen trees, excessive Canadian and pond weed, lack of any rain (which usually helps keep good water quality). 8 gone, between 15-30lb. Sad day