muftyboy Posted May 30, 2019 Report Share Posted May 30, 2019 Hi guys , the company i was gonna use for my french trip has gone out of business. Looking for a milky protien bait. Any recommendations please. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yonny Posted May 30, 2019 Report Share Posted May 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, muftyboy said: Looking for a milky protien bait. Trent Baits SSD PRO9. I use Trent for all my boiled baits. Their Freshwater Shrimp is the best bait I've used, it's a bit special. But it's a fishmeal. harpz_31 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muftyboy Posted May 30, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2019 30 minutes ago, yonny said: Trent Baits SSD PRO9. I use Trent for all my boiled baits. Their Freshwater Shrimp is the best bait I've used, it's a bit special. But it's a fishmeal. Cheers mate , ill have a look now. yonny 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscsha Posted May 30, 2019 Report Share Posted May 30, 2019 I like these guys https://www.retrobaits.net/products-1 , muftyboy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yonny Posted May 30, 2019 Report Share Posted May 30, 2019 @oscsha, they don't appear to do a milk protein bait dude? It's all fish and nutmeals? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazmc Posted May 30, 2019 Report Share Posted May 30, 2019 RG Baits vitalac is a cracking bait http://www.rgbaits.co.uk/shop/carp-fishing-freezer-baits-boilies/vita-lac-freezer-baits/ Gaz muftyboy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowmanstevo Posted May 30, 2019 Report Share Posted May 30, 2019 Give ABS a ring Mufty,you won’t be disappointed mate. welder, smufter and muftyboy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscsha Posted May 30, 2019 Report Share Posted May 30, 2019 5 hours ago, yonny said: @oscsha, they don't appear to do a milk protein bait dude? It's all fish and nutmeals? Good point , didn't think of checking I use fishmeals . muftyboy and yonny 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muftyboy Posted May 30, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2019 Thanks for the replies guys. Gonna have a good research over the next week or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smufter Posted May 31, 2019 Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 As Stevo says Muft, ABS will be able to sort you out. Or another good one is this. https://www.xcelbaits.com/shop/ They only offer two baits, the VNF (Vanilla/Nut/Fudge) is awesome, and Shaun, the owner, is spot on. muftyboy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greekskii Posted May 31, 2019 Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 Responsive baits CSL is a real winner mate. muftyboy and yonny 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yonny Posted May 31, 2019 Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 @muftyboy, is there a reason you're after a milk protein mate? Is it because you're worried about fishmeals turning over the course of the week or do you just like milk protein baits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted May 31, 2019 Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 5 hours ago, smufter said: https://www.xcelbaits.com/shop/ They only offer two baits, the VNF (Vanilla/Nut/Fudge) is awesome, and Shaun, the owner, is spot on. Awsome these Smuft...i use the 15mm Barrels...lad at work (sort of) does the photgraphy when he fishes when he can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmoputney Posted May 31, 2019 Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 Premier Baits have been helping me via email today, Tony is very helpful and a great service they do all sorts of baits and you can mess around with the custom bait creator If you wanted something a bit different kevtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smufter Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 17 hours ago, Highy said: Awsome these Smuft...i use the 15mm Barrels...lad at work (sort of) does the photgraphy when he fishes when he can. I've just order 5 kg of the VNF to pop into the freezer. Might introduce them to the Cottage on my next trip out, but I'll take a couple of kg with me to France in July as an alternative. I'm planning on taking their "test bait" with me as my main bait. Catch reports are awesome and I've been assured it will be on general release by the time I go. ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 3 hours ago, smufter said: I'm planning on taking their "test bait" with me as my main bait. Catch reports are awesome and I've been assured it will be on general release by the time I go. They bringing a new bait out ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurkio Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 3 hours ago, Highy said: They bringing a new bait out ? It's been out with the testers for about 3 or 4 months now. I have been assured it will be available to buy in time for my French trip. It's getting cracking reviews. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 25 minutes ago, Lurkio said: It's been out with the testers for about 3 or 4 months now. I have been assured it will be available to buy in time for my French trip. It's getting cracking reviews. What it gonna be called... Any more info...fish meal...nutty...milky ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yonny Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 13 hours ago, Highy said: They bringing a new bait out ? My pal field tests for them and has done well on the test bait. No idea what it is though bud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smufter Posted June 2, 2019 Report Share Posted June 2, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, Highy said: What it gonna be called... Any more info...fish meal...nutty...milky ?? They haven't given it a name yet.... and it's not a fishmeal, that's why I want to take it (trying (trying!!) to avoid the cats!). It's similar to Plan b with some added attractors apparently.... Edited June 2, 2019 by smufter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muftyboy Posted June 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2019 On 31/05/2019 at 11:07, yonny said: @muftyboy, is there a reason you're after a milk protein mate? Is it because you're worried about fishmeals turning over the course of the week or do you just like milk protein baits? Only reason being i catch more with milks than fishmeal and last time i went there 2 years ago i ended with 25 fish for the week at an average of over 36lb. The next best was 11 fish. yonny 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salokcinnodrog Posted June 2, 2019 Report Share Posted June 2, 2019 34 minutes ago, muftyboy said: Only reason being i catch more with milks than fishmeal and last time i went there 2 years ago i ended with 25 fish for the week at an average of over 36lb. The next best was 11 fish. Confidence is everything😉 I've said in the past I don't think fishmeals are the be all and end all, I found a meat based protein as effective on a few waters where fishmeals were supposedly best. In fact on one of them, I know how a fishmeal bait dominated proceedings for a number of years. One thing I think with milk proteins, they need to be able to be digested. A standard milk protein, just powders, needs an 'active' protease enzyme to break them down or they are no better than other baits. I'll put this here for you: "Dairy Protein Digestion: Life in the Slow Lane Proteins take longer to digest in the stomach than do carbohydrates, and milk contains some of the slowest digesting proteins. Casein proteins are soluble in milk but form insoluble curds once they reach the stomach, making it hard for digestive enzymes to break them apart." I know carp don't have stomachs, so their digestion is as it goes through the alimentary canal and intestines. DT Baits N-Blend may be close to what you are looking for, or possibly Rod Hutchinson Ballistic B muftyboy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smufter Posted June 7, 2019 Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 (edited) On 01/06/2019 at 08:51, Highy said: They bringing a new bait out ? Bit of confusion here I think mate. It's not XCel who are bringing out a test bait, it's ABS. Sorry, didn't make that clear did I?!!! My VNF arrived yesterday and it's in the freezer now. If the smell of bait caught fish, this is a winner. Smells absolutely gorgeous to my nose. But it doesn't work like that does it (sadly!). As I say, I'm going to introduce it to the Cottage starting from next week, as far as I am aware nobody else is on it, so hopefully it might just give me an "edge". But like I say, I'll be taking a couple of K's of it to France with me as back up to the new ABS test bait. It's available to order from 10th June so I'll be phoning them and ordering sometime next week. Sorry for any confusion. Edited June 7, 2019 by smufter snowmanstevo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowmanstevo Posted June 7, 2019 Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, smufter said: Bit of confusion here I think mate. It's not XCel who are bringing out a test bait, it's ABS. Sorry, didn't make that clear did I?!!! My VNF arrived yesterday and it's in the freezer now. If the smell of bait caught fish, this is a winner. Smells absolutely gorgeous to my nose. But it doesn't work like that does it (sadly!). As I say, I'm going to introduce it to the Cottage starting from next week, as far as I am aware nobody else is on it, so hopefully it might just give me an "edge". But like I say, I'll be taking a couple of K's of it to France with me as back up to the new ABS test bait. It's available to order from 10th June so I'll be phoning them and ordering sometime next week. Sorry for any confusion. The new ABS bait has been amazing in testing,so I’ve heard 😬😎🎣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smufter Posted June 7, 2019 Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 9 minutes ago, snowmanstevo said: The new ABS bait has been amazing in testing,so I’ve heard 😬😎🎣 Yes Steve. Reading great reviews on it. I'm going to try it because it's not a fishmeal and I'm trying to avoid the cats in the lake we're going to. I know nothing is guaranteed but in for a penny (as they say).... 😉 snowmanstevo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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