TM1985 Posted December 29, 2014 Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 Hi everyone I hope you're all well. I'm pretty sure I've seen copies of the korda cog system for sale either on the Web or someone was advertising them on Facebook could someone please point me in the right direction! Cheers Todd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grangemilky Posted December 29, 2014 Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 (edited) The right direction would be nowhere near them IMO. Why do you wan't them exactly? Surely an inline lead will give far more of the effect you are after at less cost, and less prone to tangle. Edited December 29, 2014 by grangemilky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM1985 Posted December 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 Im just interested in trying them mate but dont wanna spend a tenner on 3! Im sure iv seen someone making them on FB or somewhere! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grangemilky Posted December 29, 2014 Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 No matter what you pay, still not as effective as an inline carpmachine 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowmanstevo Posted December 29, 2014 Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 My mate invested in the cog system ..... Danny is his god ...... He caught fish using them .... But no more than he normally does Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blanksalot Posted December 29, 2014 Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 Im just interested in trying them mate but dont wanna spend a tenner on 3! Im sure iv seen someone making them on FB or somewhere! Try the carpychris web site Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmcee Posted December 30, 2014 Report Share Posted December 30, 2014 must admit the korda cog system does look over the top. im pretty sure that starbaits done a lead similar called the mahn lead, or something like that. a cross between the cog and an inline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmcee Posted December 30, 2014 Report Share Posted December 30, 2014 just looked at they are called "mahin leads" newmarket 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bivvystreet Posted December 30, 2014 Report Share Posted December 30, 2014 (edited) Reckon the same effect could be gotten by sticking an elastic band on your lead,sure it will have been done by others years ago like all the other "new" ideas then again I suppose a crack off could then leave a lead that wouldn't necessarily eject so bad idea Edited December 30, 2014 by bivvystreet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM1985 Posted December 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2014 Cheers for all the replys everyone I'm still gonna give them a go and see how I get on with them will post back with thoughts Thanks for the carpy Chris nod Cheers Todd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grangemilky Posted December 31, 2014 Report Share Posted December 31, 2014 Cheers for all the replys everyone I'm still gonna give them a go and see how I get on with them will post back with thoughts Thanks for the carpy Chris nod Cheers Todd Fair enough, your call. What reason do you want to try them, what do you expect to gain from them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newmarket Posted December 31, 2014 Report Share Posted December 31, 2014 These things have been around for donkeys years in one form or another and i never could understand the attraction or how they are supposed to improve your fishing . In fact at one point i even asked the question on this forum . They are nothing new and bring nothing to the table . Designed to catch the young'uns and/or inexperienced , in my opinion of course . Put the word "Korda" on used bog roll and people will buy it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM1985 Posted January 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Waste of money then! Inlines or lead clips seem to be what most anglers are using anyway! I could do with a hand then as im relatively inexperienced when it comes to what setup for what situation and iv been done in this spot a couple of times! My water has a swim that has channels running through it and only requires an underarm flick to put the rigs into position - what setup would you use to nail them as quickly as possible on the pickup before they either dart left into the roots of trees etc or the weedy that makes the channels up? Thats why i was interested in the cog system as it looks like with a short hooklink and a decent weight lead the hook hits home pretty quick! Cheers Todd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigewoodcock Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 A cheap diy version: Use an elastic band on the hook link and lead. On the pick up, the weight of the lead will be felt instantly, like an inline. Then during the fight or even earlier, the band will slip up the lead and you have the advantage of the lead clip system. The one thing I will mention is, it may be less anti tangle than the line clip as standard; but so are in lines. Scratchy sketch to follow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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androoooo Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 4oz plus weights is really where it becomes difficult to eject. Try lifting a hook with less and you can shake it off. Watching the line and setting the hook yourself gives you much better control than waiting for an alarm to sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grangemilky Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Waste of money then! Inlines or lead clips seem to be what most anglers are using anyway! I could do with a hand then as im relatively inexperienced when it comes to what setup for what situation and iv been done in this spot a couple of times! My water has a swim that has channels running through it and only requires an underarm flick to put the rigs into position - what setup would you use to nail them as quickly as possible on the pickup before they either dart left into the roots of trees etc or the weedy that makes the channels up? Thats why i was interested in the cog system as it looks like with a short hooklink and a decent weight lead the hook hits home pretty quick! Cheers Todd I would be using a running rig with a slack line. There is a lot of myth and misconception about lead set ups. A running rig will give you the indication long before any semi-fixed rig will. The problem/good thing with an inline lead, is the fish feels the weight instantly. It pulls in the hook, and the fish feels the weight, panics and runs as fast as possible. that's the last thing you want near snags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
androoooo Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 TM I've re-read your post and from what I can gather you have snags (tree roots) on one side, with weed on the other side? With a channel running between that your fishing? If the weed is in open water I'd fish over the top of it and directly at the snag. Generally the advice and how I've always fished to snags is directly at it and locked up. When you get a bite the fish will tend to swim towards you an away from the snag. If that means they go into a weed bed. Keep the pressure on you can get them through it. The quicker you can gain control by watching the line/tip the less they'll bury themselves in it. It feels uncomfortable at first but you have to give them a bit of stick. If I've got the swim wrong from your description ignore me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grangemilky Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 (edited) I have to disagree with that, fishing snags is basically what I do, you need zero stretch, hence why I use braid, no slack line, bow string tight, locked up with the rod angled at ninety degrees to the bank, any take will result in instant hooking and the rod absorbing the inititial surge, but beware, if you are not careful your rod will disappear very rapidly, hence one rod. I agree your way will work. But its not the only way. Your tight line gives you an angry fish that is darting for the snags, your rod is locked solid to not let it get any closer. My slack line and running rig gives me instant indication, a few beeps and i can pick up the rod before the fish moves, without the tight line, and resistance from the lead ,generally the fish won't even attempt to go for the snags until the rod is in my hands. At the first beep, pick up the rod and slowly walk backwards, the fish is out the snags before it knows whats what, i am not wrestling an angry fish that is already at the snag, angry, and already has the rod at full tilt. People will probably disagree, and slack lining against snags isn't for the feint hearted, but it really works, and has put far more fish on the bank for me. the only time i use a tight line against snags is at distance, or when fishing a washing-line set up, not that i would condone any snag method without a fair amount of experience. Edited January 1, 2015 by grangemilky grangemilky and newmarket 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newmarket Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 I've got no snag fishing experience whatsoever but i do love a bite indication thread and reading you lot arg sorry , debating Every days a schoolday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkman Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Due to the close range, all the methods suggested will work. It's angler's preference and more importantly level of experience that shoud be considered, before deciding on what to use. As for the COG system, I think it's too cluttered in terms of components. Choosing an heavier inline lead would be a better option in this instance , with a very short hooklink. dalthegooner 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil dalts Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 I bought some cog leads with all components inc on ebay, something like £11 for 8 of them, I've been testing them out having my normal lead system on one rod and a cog on the other, so far no difference to takes I'm afraid,I can see their suggested use i.e center of the lead etc but all i can work out is its just a complicated way of fishing an inline but not losing the lead on a take, that's if you fish an inline with line on outside which is the only sensible way of using em, no point in having lead bouncing about is there,hope this helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy52 Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 Looking at the Cog setup it looks like it's prone to tangles if you give it some wellie ( or Am I mistaken) won't be the first time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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