newmarket Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 I have asked this question once before , many years ago , but thought i'd ask it again . What are everybodys thoughts about fishing with lots of different boilies at the same time ? By that i mean taking a kilo , for example , of lots of different boilies , mixing em all up and using em like that for pre baiting , baiting up during a session and hookbaits as well ? And sticking to it over a period of time ? All good quality food baits , no cheap rubbish , just lots of different sizes , flavours , base mixes and colours ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmcee Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 nothing wrong with that mr newmarket. one of my best seasons started with prebaiting with all the old boilies in my freezer. fishmeals, milk proteins, birdfoods etc etc. all different flavours, sizes and the fish didnt give a monkeys. i now buy premier baits randoms for pre baiting purposes and will throw in my chosen bait for the lake in with it and slowly get round to baiting with just my chosen bait. premiers randoms are all different mixes, flavours, sizes and shapes which can only give you an edge on most carp waters. i have fished soley with these and just bought some prem random wafters to go with them. and they are cheap as well newmarket 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraserking Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 I did this once, buying 5k of randoms from essential I think. I had a good session, caught on different sizes, flavours and types. A longer campaign would be needed to see if there was any advantage/disadvantage though. I can't claim to be an expert, but I don't think it would matter too much. I reckon the carp would just go where the food is even if it were all different types! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobcross Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 Only tried it once and blanked , now I stick to one type. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpmandanpower Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 Funny how a mixture of different flavour boilies seems odd, yet a mixture of particles, pulses and pellets seems normal. I'd not feel confident on random boilies but in all honesty I doubt the fish would be bothered! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalthegooner Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 (edited) Funny how a mixture of different flavour boilies seems odd, yet a mixture of particles, pulses and pellets seems normal... That's a very good point. I've used different sized and shaped boilies, but have never mixed up the flavour. I might give it a try now though... Edited October 11, 2014 by dalthegooner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpmandanpower Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 That's a very good point. I've used different sized and shaped boilies, but have never mixed up the flavour. I might give it a try now though... Likewise - I in fact always use different sizes of free offerings, without fail. Different flavours though? Think it would do my head in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraserking Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 That's a very good point. I've used different sized and shaped boilies, but have never mixed up the flavour. I might give it a try now though... Thats a very, very good point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newmarket Posted October 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 When you think about it how often is a bright pop up fished amongst bright freebies ? Get em scoffing all sorts of different boilies and they'll never know which ones the dangerous one till its too late . welder 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmcee Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 lets face it we all use different bait. from mainline, premier, abs, essential, nash, richworth etc etc the list is endless. and the fish in our lakes eat all these different baits time and time again so i dont see a problem at all with it.they might eat some of your bait then swim off and eat another type then another type etc etc so they do it all the time anyway. a mate once asked me if a carp ate a mainline bait, nash bait, premier bait, essential bait etc all in a row how would it know what bait was better for it. god only knows, mix it up and confuse them, then reel 'em in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraserking Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 lets face it we all use different bait. from mainline, premier, abs, essential, nash, richworth etc etc the list is endless. and the fish in our lakes eat all these different baits time and time again so i dont see a problem at all with it.they might eat some of your bait then swim off and eat another type then another type etc etc so they do it all the time anyway. a mate once asked me if a carp ate a mainline bait, nash bait, premier bait, essential bait etc all in a row how would it know what bait was better for it. god only knows, mix it up and confuse them, then reel 'em in You are quite right. If we think about it logically, how many people would be pre baiting a lake during the course of a campaign? Probably far more than we think, all with a combination of the baits you mention and then some. Do you think that, after all is said and done, any decent boilie will catch fish and everything else is our psychological reactions to different baits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newmarket Posted October 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 You are quite right. If we think about it logically, how many people would be pre baiting a lake during the course of a campaign? Probably far more than we think, all with a combination of the baits you mention and then some. Do you think that, after all is said and done, any decent boilie will catch fish and everything else is our psychological reactions to different baits. Im thinking that in this day and age the answer to that is yes. There are lots of reputable bait companies out there these days all producing good quality boilies. They all catch fish when placed in the correct areas fact . Years ago there were boilies and there were boilies . I dont believe that is so true these days . salokcinnodrog 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jontain Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 I have been using a couple which should complement each other in the cell/hybrid with a few fishmeal boilies mixed in to the bunch. Although all will go out as freebies in the general are I will tend to match hook baits and freebies more for each spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigewoodcock Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 This season, I have been using a mix of essential baits b5 (my usual bait) and their black snail. For the relative lack of bank time I have had this year, my catch rates have been quite high. Take churn pool for example. I doubt much of that combination goes in there, if any at all, when you look at the bait that they promote and sell on site. I know Andy and guy were on the promoted bait as it's what they use anyhow. I piled in the b5 and black snail and had a great couple of days on it with regular runs and fish continually visiting the spot I was fishing. It gives a whole new level of attractants to the swim. If the b5 isn't working, the black snail might be and vise versa. I spoke to mike wilmot about what I had been doing and he mentioned that a few of the others on the promotional team had been doing the same with similar, excellent results. It's a tactic that I am going to stick with next season, when I hope to be out on a bit more of a sustained campaign on a water. This year has been more social fishing so with a regular baiting pattern on the same lake, I'm hoping it will only increase in its success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newmarket Posted October 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 (edited) This season, I have been using a mix of essential baits b5 (my usual bait) and their black snail. For the relative lack of bank time I have had this year, my catch rates have been quite high. Take churn pool for example. I doubt much of that combination goes in there, if any at all, when you look at the bait that they promote and sell on site. I know Andy and guy were on the promoted bait as it's what they use anyhow. I piled in the b5 and black snail and had a great couple of days on it with regular runs and fish continually visiting the spot I was fishing. It gives a whole new level of attractants to the swim. If the b5 isn't working, the black snail might be and vise versa. I spoke to mike wilmot about what I had been doing and he mentioned that a few of the others on the promotional team had been doing the same with similar, excellent results. It's a tactic that I am going to stick with next season, when I hope to be out on a bit more of a sustained campaign on a water. This year has been more social fishing so with a regular baiting pattern on the same lake, I'm hoping it will only increase in its success. Its certainley shows how instant that B5 can be ( yeh i know it could be the snail ). When i was fishing singles last winter it outfished everything else i tried put together by 3/1 . The lake i fish has never seen a bait like it to my knowledge . Kudos to you Nigel i wish you luck . Edited October 13, 2014 by newmarket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkman Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 (edited) I've been using two different baits as free offerings just lately. It began when I couldn't decide which rod was to have which bait. I then just said to myself @@@@ IT use half and half on each rod. The baits were Atlantic Heat and Cell with a completely different pop up over the top. Edited October 13, 2014 by hawkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newmarket Posted October 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 I've been using two different baits as free offerings just lately. It began when I couldn't decide which rod was to have which bait. I then just said to myself @@@@ IT use half and half on each rod. The baits were Atlantic Heat and Cell with a completely different pop up over the top. And ? Dont leave it there Hawk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkman Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 The pop ups I was using were Impulse baits MK2, I've caught loads of carp on these since the back end of last winter. I have no quarms about just using these as singles , which is what I did when I first started using them. I've also caught a few from a very tricky water this year using Specialized hookbaits pop ups over the top of Atlantic Heat. newmarket 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkman Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 (edited) As an addition to the above, I also use Atlantic heat cork dust pop ups in 15 mm and Shelfish B5 cork dust pop ups in 16mm. The B5 pop ups are that bit more buoyant and last quite a lot longer than the Atlantic Heat. When using size 6 Covert Muggas,I can leave the B5s out knowing that my rig is sitting right even after 24 hrs. That's all Ive used in the last 10 months. Edited October 13, 2014 by hawkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newmarket Posted October 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 Agree re the B5 pop ups . Their hardened hookies in dumbells are the buisness too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkman Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 Just took a photo of all this lot haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigewoodcock Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 Agree re the B5 pop ups . Their hardened hookies in dumbells are the buisness too My favourite item that essential baits produce has to be this: I use it in so many ways. From particle preparation, soaking my plastics and foams in (50/50 mixed with water), making my pop ups, etc etc. it's unreal stuff. Get some on your finger, you can still taste the sweetness after two days!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newmarket Posted October 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 I noticed they are really plugging this stuff on their wevsite at the moment . Apparently its unique , nobody else has anything similar in another name and i will be trying it at some stage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jontain Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 (edited) Not heard of Essential Baits before but it looks like they have something right up my street! Couldn't see any deals similar to the kent particle deals where you get 5-10kg of freezer baits with glugs/pop-ups etc, does anyone know if they offer these kind of bulk deals anywhere? EDIT: Doh! Just looked on the kent particle website and they roll the essential baits stuff but not the B5 in black, will have to see if this is an option coming! Edited October 14, 2014 by jontain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newmarket Posted October 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 I cant believe KP do it cheaper than Essential ? Cant see Wilmott suffering that after the Bait & Feed fiasco ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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