Air dried baits Swelling

[neontrifle]

I have little space for a freezer for bait so I either make them fresh as needed or buy small amounts of freezer baits as required.....but expensive. A lot of companies now offer air drying service (tempting) but the more I think of it the more it worrries me.

 

I would always my own air dry baits then rehydrate them over 12-24 hours.

 

I spoke to someone recently who just says buy several kilos of air dried baits and a few frozen ones for easy hooking because air dried can be rock hard.

 

Surely these air dried baits to a novice including me who hasn't thought of it and chucked a few in areas without hydrating them will swell in the Carps gut like the old days with poorly prepared nuts?? Which got them banned in a lot of lakes.

 

An 18mll boilie can shrink a hell of a lot when air dried.

 

I think Shaun Harrison at quest baits is a big advocate of rehydrating but not sure what he says about his shelf life boilies.

 

Would love some feedback please excuse my dyslexia

[stoogi]

I think once the carp have crushed them it won't be an issue.

[salokcinnodrog]

I have little space for a freezer for bait so I either make them fresh as needed or buy small amounts of freezer baits as required.....but expensive. A lot of companies now offer air drying service (tempting) but the more I think of it the more it worrries me.

 

I would always my own air dry baits then rehydrate them over 12-24 hours.

 

I spoke to someone recently who just says buy several kilos of air dried baits and a few frozen ones for easy hooking because air dried can be rock hard.

 

Surely these air dried baits to a novice including me who hasn't thought of it and chucked a few in areas without hydrating them will swell in the Carps gut like the old days with poorly prepared nuts?? Which got them banned in a lot of lakes.

 

An 18mll boilie can shrink a hell of a lot when air dried.

 

I think Shaun Harrison at quest baits is a big advocate of rehydrating but not sure what he says about his shelf life boilies.

 

Would love some feedback please excuse my dyslexia

 

Air dried baits I think take on water, even faster than baits from freezing, so it won't be an issue.

 

As Stoogi says, they get crushed as well.

 

I used to fish air dried and frozen together and caught on both, but I found that using air dried baits as hookbaits could be fatal if I wanted a bait to stay on the hair overnight. I actually used to have to mesh my air dried hookbaits if I had run out of freezer bait.

[mattgroves]

... but I found that using air dried baits as hookbaits could be fatal if I wanted a bait to stay on the hair overnight. I actually used to have to mesh my air dried hookbaits if I had run out of freezer bait.

 

That's intrigued me Nick... Why would you need to mesh them? I'd have thought that a rock-hard bait would stay on longer than a fresh/soft one?

[neontrifle]

So....playing devils advocate feeding unprepared particles is ok because carp crush them up and defecate them in around 20 minutes?

 

 

Daft argument I know but feeding carp balls of solid powder would take on water quickly thus causing probable gut problems. Reason being when I soak my baits they can take hours to soften up thus harder to pass through the system

Also if thrown in lake unsoaked in a smelly silty area they take on some quite rotten smells.

 

I want to use air dried baits because I have a good system going ....airing cupboard ect... But the above worried me because of the Carps health.

 

 

 

 

Probably nothing to worry myself about

[salokcinnodrog]

... but I found that using air dried baits as hookbaits could be fatal if I wanted a bait to stay on the hair overnight. I actually used to have to mesh my air dried hookbaits if I had run out of freezer bait.

 

That's intrigued me Nick... Why would you need to mesh them? I'd have thought that a rock-hard bait would stay on longer than a fresh/soft one?

 

No mate,

 

Airdried baits take on water faster than a frozen one. As they take on the water, they go softer faster than frozen baits which still have moisture in them.

 

With a hole drilled through the airdried, they would almost explode off the hair.

 

....playing devils advocate feeding unprepared particles is ok because carp crush them up and defecate them in around 20 minutes?

 

No, its something to do with the germination, some particles (beans) are toxic until soaked and boiled, others like peanuts and tigers are indigestible unless coooked (although I seem to remember that Del said something about using peanuts just soaked for a long time years ago), and some there is the swelling issue.

 

Don't also forget the mention that airdried baits do take on water themselves in the lake. See also first quote in this post

[neontrifle]

Hmmm! Food for thought...no pun intended ......I rang bait and feed company on this issue and they gave exact answer as nick.

 

I am satisfied that things with air drieds are ok. Let's face it soluballs and pellets are much the same.

 

Think I'll get a blumming cane rod (or fibreglass much bettter than carbon but thats another thread)and worm maggots and cheese And enjoy rather than over thinking .