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Excuse my ignorance gents but I haven't used a shod rig before or seen one in the flesh. Is it the lead tat basically stops the hook link sliding off the line when you are playing a fish? If so, how can you make the rig safe? Surely if you use a really low breaking strain line it will just break off when you are playing a nice fish? I am clearly missing something here :oops:

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Excuse my ignorance gents but I haven't used a shod rig before or seen one in the flesh. Is it the lead tat basically stops the hook link sliding off the line when you are playing a fish? If so, how can you make the rig safe? Surely if you use a really low breaking strain line it will just break off when you are playing a nice fish? I am clearly missing something here :oops:

 

Part of your comment is one reason I don't like Helicopter set-ups, especially with a "naked" line section of light breaking strain mainline. You should be using a line strength of at least 15lb to my mind.

 

Have a read of these, some good pics and ideas here:

https://forum.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=51296

https://forum.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=36456

https://forum.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?p=519408#519408

https://forum.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=37603

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Excuse my ignorance gents but I haven't used a shod rig before or seen one in the flesh. Is it the lead tat basically stops the hook link sliding off the line when you are playing a fish? If so, how can you make the rig safe? Surely if you use a really low breaking strain line it will just break off when you are playing a nice fish? I am clearly missing something here :oops:

 

Part of your comment is one reason I don't like Helicopter set-ups, especially with a "naked" line section of light breaking strain mainline. You should be using a line strength of at least 15lb to my mind.

 

Have a read of these, some good pics and ideas here:

https://forum.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=51296

https://forum.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=36456

https://forum.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?p=519408#519408

https://forum.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=37603

 

Thanks for your patience. That last thread had a brilliant picture in it and would be my preferred set up. The only thing is, if the beads can release then how do you prevent them sliding down the line on the cast or when playing a fish? This is probably obvious but not to me :oops: I currently use Daiwa sensor brown 15lb. I don't want to use a leader so should I go for a higher breaking strain line? The new lake I am fishing has some nice twenties and probably thirties too by now. What size beads should I use and which of the two sizes of sinker?

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Excuse my ignorance gents but I haven't used a shod rig before or seen one in the flesh. Is it the lead tat basically stops the hook link sliding off the line when you are playing a fish? If so, how can you make the rig safe? Surely if you use a really low breaking strain line it will just break off when you are playing a nice fish? I am clearly missing something here :oops:

 

Part of your comment is one reason I don't like Helicopter set-ups, especially with a "naked" line section of light breaking strain mainline. You should be using a line strength of at least 15lb to my mind.

 

Have a read of these, some good pics and ideas here:

https://forum.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=51296

https://forum.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=36456

https://forum.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?p=519408#519408

https://forum.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=37603

 

Thanks for your patience. That last thread had a brilliant picture in it and would be my preferred set up. The only thing is, if the beads can release then how do you prevent them sliding down the line on the cast or when playing a fish? This is probably obvious but not to me :oops: I currently use Daiwa sensor brown 15lb. I don't want to use a leader so should I go for a higher breaking strain line? The new lake I am fishing has some nice twenties and probably thirties too by now. What size beads should I use and which of the two sizes of sinker?

 

The beads I used on that set-up were 8mm Rubber beads. A small PVA string loop or foam nugget will stop the beads sliding down on the cast, but it honestly doesn't matter that much, as you want them to slide up the line on impact with the water, so that the rig itself settles on the silt.

 

As for playing fish, it doesn't matter if they slide down to the lead attachment, in fact it is more likely to help avoid the trailing lead getting snagged or stuck in anything.

 

I've landed a fair number of fish to over 30lb on 15lb Daiwa Sensor, its a pretty good line, and years ago I did use it with Helicopter set-ups. :wink:

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Excuse my ignorance gents but I haven't used a shod rig before or seen one in the flesh. Is it the lead tat basically stops the hook link sliding off the line when you are playing a fish? If so, how can you make the rig safe? Surely if you use a really low breaking strain line it will just break off when you are playing a nice fish? I am clearly missing something here :oops:

 

Part of your comment is one reason I don't like Helicopter set-ups, especially with a "naked" line section of light breaking strain mainline. You should be using a line strength of at least 15lb to my mind.

 

Have a read of these, some good pics and ideas here:

https://forum.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=51296

https://forum.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=36456

https://forum.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?p=519408#519408

https://forum.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=37603

 

Thanks for your patience. That last thread had a brilliant picture in it and would be my preferred set up. The only thing is, if the beads can release then how do you prevent them sliding down the line on the cast or when playing a fish? This is probably obvious but not to me :oops: I currently use Daiwa sensor brown 15lb. I don't want to use a leader so should I go for a higher breaking strain line? The new lake I am fishing has some nice twenties and probably thirties too by now. What size beads should I use and which of the two sizes of sinker?

 

The beads I used on that set-up were 8mm Rubber beads. A small PVA string loop or foam nugget will stop the beads sliding down on the cast, but it honestly doesn't matter that much, as you want them to slide up the line on impact with the water, so that the rig itself settles on the silt.

 

As for playing fish, it doesn't matter if they slide down to the lead attachment, in fact it is more likely to help avoid the trailing lead getting snagged or stuck in anything.

 

I've landed a fair number of fish to over 30lb on 15lb Daiwa Sensor, its a pretty good line, and years ago I did use it with Helicopter set-ups. :wink:

 

i still only use 12lb line.

in my mind if i need to use heavier i shouldn't be fishing there :shock:

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No, you're hooklink should be 20lb or 15lb. Its such a complicated rig if you don't know exactly how it works, so many other easy rigs out there to use. Don't be fooled into thinking this rig is the only one to use. But studdy these links and look at some vidoes on youtube to gove you a good idea how they work and how to tie each individual section safetly. Good luck

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