louismiller

Just following this thread up. I haven't really tested it out that much and haven't caught a carp on it yet but did have a 5lb 7oz snotty on it first time I used it. It was well hooked at least

Camouflage was the initial reason for using the fake bloodworm, then after noticing its buoyancy led me onto this low pop-up arrangement. I've had quite a lot of success in the past using the shot on the hook rig, I was however always concerned about the shot getting caught somehow and stopping the hooking of the fish altogether. This rig works exactly the same way: how the bait sits in the water, pulling the point of the hook down towards the bottom lip although with the absence of the shot means the bait will behave more naturally, or as naturally as a yellow piece of plastic can behave. Planning on fishing this rig over a mainly vitalin mix with a little particle and boilie in, hardly any real food in there, hopefully won't have them feeding too hard on the bottom, ignoring the pop-up, despite it only being popped up 3/4 inch or so; with any luck they won't be constantly up-ended, instead moving down on the small patches of food that will be present, with my hook bait being one of them. Two worries at the moment are the fake bloodworm lessening the gape of the hook and the buoyancy of the fake corn lifting the hook over the lip. I'm going to pull the bloodworm off the shank a little, so it comes off just after the hair; hopefully keeping the camouflage but not narrowing the gape at all. With the buoyancy issue I think it shouldn't be too much of a problem, just a bit of experiment with various bait sizes to get it critically balanced so it shouldn't pull the hook above the lip should it get ejected. Maybe I'm thinking too far into this, but I can't help it.

Depends on the fluorocarbon really, with supple ones most knots are easy enough to tie however with the stiffer ones I find some knots can damage the line pretty easily; I tried a grinner knot with some 25lb ESP stiff rig material and it just wouldn't have any of it, with that stuff I just tie loops in it for contructing any rigs now. For straightening holding it over steam does the job extremely well, just watch the fingers

The rig itself is almost exactly the same, however I don't fish pop-ups directly off the hinge which brings me onto the fact that no putty is needed, I stated clearly as it is it sits on the bottom point parallel to the bottom; similar to the shot on the hook rig, minus the shot. Good point about the tangling, it should be fine on the cast as all my fishing uses dynamite sticks, but if it gets moved around on the bottom I could see the supple section possibly looping up round the 'tail'. I'm not too convinced over the hook hold scepticism; I may pull the fakeworm up the shank a bit to stop it reducing the gape of the hook, other than that i can't see how it will impede, rather than improve hooking.

Or, if like me you totally fail at using fingernails, teeth or any other other part of the human anatomy to strip it. Korda (and I'm sure others) do a tool for it; you thread your line through, put it into the groove, pull and voila, stripped braid.

Just sat at my desk tying up some rigs and tried fiddling about with these fake bloodworm jobbies I picked up the other day; Didn't really pay much attention in the shop but found out now they're semi buoyant, so made up the following hooking arrangement... Note: The bait is not fished that high off the bottom, the hook sits on the bottom in the position pictured; thought I'd make that clear When in the water the hook sits as it is in the picture, just on the bottom and the cut down boilie slides 'down' the hair to sit against the hook leaving a gap between it and the pop up corn. Now my thinking is this is gonna nail em slap bang middle of the bottom lip everytime due to the hook point being the heaviest part of the hook and should a fish try to eject it, the weight from the bottom bait sitting on the hook will push it down towards its target; but before I test it out next wednesday/thursday I'd like some thoughts or if someones tried this arrangement before some first hand accounts. Cheers, Louis.

If it could get past the superglued beads of course.

I may be looking at this the wrong way, I sincerely hope so as that to me in my slightly delirious flu'ed up brain screams Death Rig.

Cheers Nick; ended up having a walk up there last saturday, still a brilliant little place, stopped and chatted to a few fellas but not much seemed to be happening, hopefully with the weather calming down now looks good for some action, should be able to fit in a 24hr session this week with any luck.

That looks very similar to a rig I tied up a few years back while doing a bit of summer work at a fishery to hang up in the cabin as an example of a something you would get banned for using. The amount of readily available information should be enough to discourage things like this; but really, you would of thought it's simple common sense.

Bumping this post: After a session there next thursday, wondering if it's still the same runs water it used to be Their website looks a little outdated; so anyone got any info on prices, anything working at the moment etc?